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(2 years ago)
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Figured this would come up eventually. Very nice work. Yeah, a lot of it does have to do with gender bias in the media. But also I guess the defined roles that where developed over the centuries, that where passed down, and changed, from parents to children throughout the ages. But that hopefully people will get with reality one day, and see the world is changing rapidly, since we do not run around swinging swords any more, well at least most of us don't any way. People have always tried to sperate themselves by putting themselves in different groups, to be better than everyone else, instead of one large group and no one being any better than anyone else. In the future hopefully a lot of the barriers will be broken, so everyone can be more unified. But I don't know maybe I am asking too much, since as Humans, it's in out nature to destroy ourselves.
Any how, everything off to the side, very well written and researched. Maybe this will open some peoples eyes to what they have been blind to. It is human to err, to really screw up you need a computer!
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(2 years ago)
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Well done rux really nice read
Suppport Granted :) In this world of sin i hope to surrender to the holy bliss.
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#1 The thing is, even here (MYM) i can see how obvious they separate the things when comes to female which does NOT! help at all.
For example here on mym if you go to the members section, males have a blue background and females have a pink one. Now, tell me why do they have to draw the line so obvious. Aren't nicks and pics obvious enough? why this stereotypical bullshit with blue and pink? It kind of annoys me because marking a clear distinction only helps deepens the differentiation in perceiving of females in e-sports field. Sure it brings media attention and few extra sign ups but in truth they have no clue how much wrong they are also doing :/. Sorry no offense intended to MYM although. I hope this will be an eye opener for many and they will stop being stupid little toys in all this scheme society and be able to see the TRUE reasons behind it. To ultimately be able to take a stand against it, to be able to say NO! to the manipulation. #2 Thanks ShamRock, appreciated ;). Hold the S cause i'm an AINT.
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#3 - I can recommend a good doctor that can cure this with pills, let me know if I should get a prescription for you :o)
Knowing my destiny - Is accepting your defeat...
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#4 u know how I feel about u.. sometimes i REALLY!!!!! hate you... and sometimes I love you. guess which one it's right now :p.
sure give me the pills to put an end to my misery... that would solve it i reckon -.-. Hold the S cause i'm an AINT.
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#5 You see things from a different point of view, your view my dear, which I as a private person agree upon. But as a businessman I see them from a business point of view, creating visibility, creating fans, branding my brand and that I do best by seperating things and yes putting them into a box sometimes :) In love and war, all means neccessary are allowed.
Last edited by Mercy at 28.06.2006, 16:47
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#6 sorry I don't agree and most of all I don't agree with the saying 'in war everything is allowed' (approx) NOT when it costs lives (in war at least) that's bullshit.
I believe this life has a lot more to offer than this. ehhhhh back on those pills.. blue ones or pink ones? Hold the S cause i'm an AINT.
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(2 years ago)
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Xenior
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It's a mans world, baby.
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the world doesn't belong to anyone actually.
maybe it 'belongs' to those holding the gun. Do you think it will make a difference the fact that I'm a female if i hold a gun pointed at you? u are granted 1 wish.. lets hear it.. you first? your family or your loved one? Hold the S cause i'm an AINT.
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(2 years ago)
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Xenior
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u are jumping out of context. Wasnt this a discussion about progaming and women?
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You were talking about the world and who owns it.. and i said it doesn't belong to anyone.
Perhaps it's not directly connected to it.. everything comes in relation it entwins. considering the fact the question regarding 'who's world is', is directly linked to domination and power. I've used the symbol ' gun' as ultimate power. in front of it the gender differences disappear and also it doesn't matter of u are poor or rich. u are equal. It was a metaphora :). Hold the S cause i'm an AINT.
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(2 years ago)
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With regards to the MYM girls team: Fuchisia pink > joo
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LOL elly ^_^.. ouch :/.
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(2 years ago)
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Xenior
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Gaming is a mans world just like the kitchen is the womans world.
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#14 sorry I tell you this but you are one limited guy. how much of your IQ did you used to say this? i bet all of it. -.- and I bet you felt smart about it also. like I was saying in my article.
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can't we all just get along, at the end of the day we're all just humans aaait -_-
Last edited by nettn at 28.06.2006, 19:27
I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it!
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(2 years ago)
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X-Master |
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I have always wondered that too #16, but as long as people keep putting up barriers to separate themselves from one another, and try to seem superior over one 'group' or another, I guess that will never happen, at least not in any of our life times, if we make the same mistakes as our parents, and their parents before them.
Last edited by X-Master at 28.06.2006, 19:45
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#17 equality doesn't exists in truth and having a ranking order is not all that bad. some ppl are better (prepared, knowledgeable, qualified..ect) than others are so differences have to be made. But i hope it will not be biased and it will be made on a fair criteria.
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(2 years ago)
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X-Master |
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Yes, but does that lead to equal treatment? Such as laws?
Last edited by X-Master at 28.06.2006, 22:43
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equal treatment and equal chances should be and i think its regulated through laws also if I'm not mistaken.
human rights.. or.. ummmm, I'm not sure. Hold the S cause i'm an AINT.
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(2 years ago)
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X-Master |
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Yeah, Humans Rights act I think it was called, and then there was some other law that employers can't discriminate based on gender, national orgin, ethnicity, etc. But there are still some cases where that is not so.
Last edited by X-Master at 29.06.2006, 01:06
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I am not sure although that the law you are talking about doesn't just refer to USA. I know for a fact that law exists there but it might be under labor Law and Regulation and not in human rights as well. But then again i might be wrong.
Perhaps someone more in domain could tell us. Hold the S cause i'm an AINT.
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(2 years ago)
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I didn't mean to infer that the one about employer discrimination was under Human Rights.
I was trying to refer more to this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Rights The other one was about equal opportunity of employment. It is human to err, to really screw up you need a computer!
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(2 years ago)
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really interesting one Ruxandra !
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#23 aha got ya ;). Thanks for the link, I will read through it.
#24 thank you :) Hold the S cause i'm an AINT.
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(2 years ago)
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Xenior
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Women have awesome multitasking in a kitchen why can't they use it in wc3?
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I've told you on msn.. and i'll tell you here also xenior.. drop it. your joke sucks. it really does..
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(2 years ago)
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Xenior just doing do it to annoy you, no valid arugments result in people taking shots like that.
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(2 years ago)
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This is funny. Everyone says muscles and fysical strength doesn't matter, when really that's where the real boundries begun. We're stronger alright, don't hate us because of it :P
But these days my personal opinion on equality for man and woman would have to be: Remove ALL lines, or none. You see it everywhere; woman crying and whining because they're not treated equally, and when it comes to things like millitary serives or even down to the 60m run in school, they either get off the hook or get handicaps. I don't see em complain about that, so like I said, ALL or NONE ;) Thx for the article iubi, interesting topic! I'm marking trees.. Because these are the ones that I like.
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(2 years ago)
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so what does this article tell me anyway? that there is no biological advantage for male nor female ppl when it comes to "mind games"? this shouldnt be looked on anyway because adjudging an advantage for any group of ppl just creates this "handicap thinking" and discrimination with it. everything that should be looked on is the results the particular ppl show. theres no reason at all to search for a reason for one group of ppl showing less good results if that is the case. then they just need to practice more.
"One thing is for sure that to have a proper image and be acknowledged anywhere you have to work 10 times harder to reach in the same point male are." any examples for that? else it is just an empty assertion to me. didnt you state that there is no advantage for males/females when it comes to gaming before? "It kind of annoys me because marking a clear distinction only helps deepens the differentiation in perceiving of females in e-sports field." that is right. as long as people are put into such boxes and not looked on and talked about as gamers (in the gaming case) instead of separating male and female it wont get better. you cant break discrimination while using the same boxes you want to remove. thats why all this emancipation stuff some women are up to wont do any good. in this point i agree with kru it wont help to say we need a specific number of female employees in any profession because this would favor them over some male ones independant of the performance they can present. it may not be a problem to have separate colours for female and male gamers at mym though, but why has it to be the fucking biased pink again? thats too much again. why not ask the girls which colour they'd like there? :o Last edited by drifting at 05.07.2006, 14:33
God loves stupid people. That's why he made so many.
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You are wrong, nobody says that physical strength is unimportant, on the contrary. You can't have women and men treated equally as they are NOT! equal... not when comes to physical strength. yes men HAVE more body strength and endurance. In fact no woman denies this but when labor involving less physical abilities (like for example working in a company) women SHOULD be treated fair, be given the opportunity to advance in their job same as men and be payed the same wages... etc. #30 mind games? umm i think you got the wrong picture coz in my own personal dictionary computer games aren't included under the 'mind games' category :p. Yes there are . Everything is very well documented. search in the links I have put at the bottom of it and even that guy Kim Ron agrees that a serious girl has to work a LOT harder to reach same state other girls reach just by using their image. And his GF was one of those girls. Examples are many but I wanted to keep my article somewhat short. "why has it to be the fucking biased pink again? thats too much again" hahaha I agree with you here.. even though I like pink ^^ Hold the S cause i'm an AINT.
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